Why do we give welfare to healthy able-bodied people but treat out elderly and disabled like crap?
heywood asked:
Disgusting how elderly people worked their whole lives for a retirement pension and have it taken away when they need extended care.
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Disgusting how elderly people worked their whole lives for a retirement pension and have it taken away when they need extended care.
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January 15th, 2010 at 3:58 am
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You are absolutely right. The truth is, there is no logical answer to your question except that we live in a twisted world.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:26 am
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I agree totally but it seems trying to get the welfare system cheat free is almost impossible..
January 18th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
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I expect Obama to actually weed the fraud out of social programs instead of just talking about it. I was permanently disabled at age 40 by having survived pancreatic cancer with a custom interior that wouldn’t work but for medication, and often not even with it, which puts me in the income level to warrant Medicaid in addition to Medicare, which means my prescriptions are about $4 apiece, and since I need 9 of them, and have government assisted housing rates, I don’t feel I’m treated by far like cr*p. Though the American grouping puts elderly and disabled together in housing, I’ve profited by neighbors’ wisdom these twenty-odd years. But the recession is the reason elderly have lost their retirement pensions, and the obscene health care system Obama next intends to tackle.
January 19th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
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Thats the way it is in this country.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:15 am
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Welfare is given for those that have difficulties function within the economic constrains of our society. Yes, some are able body. Still if they cant find work they can get help. You would do better not complaining about the system these days. Who knows, you maybe standing in that line one of these days.
You also made a rash generalization. Not all elderly fit your rather narrow definition. Some elderly are rich and need nothing. Indeed most elderly in America are treated just fine.
One wonders why your question is worded the way it is. Indeed it does not look as if you are seeking advise or enlightenment, but more like complaining and looking for chatty answers.
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:22 am
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Honestly speaking I have to agree with you on this matter. The problem with the welfare system is it was intended to be a hand up , not a hand out. So you now have two to three generations or more living off the welfare role. These people are perfectly able to work but decide to live on welfare. While your senior citizens have to decide whether to eat or buy medicine, and these are the folks who worked hard and when they try to get welfare they make to much money. We need a new way of deciding who receives and who does not receive welfare. And stop the vicious cycle of miss use of welfare. Great question have a star.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:07 am
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I find your question to be timely. Many don’t understand that long term care provided through Medicaid requires that you have next to no assets. This is a problem that impacts both lower income and middle class citizens.The only legal way around it is to establish a trust and put all your money and possessions into the trust. The trust must be created at least 5 years before you apply for long term care through Medicaid. The only other solution is to die young at home. Welcome to the progressive USA. No, Obama won’t change it!
January 24th, 2010 at 7:03 am
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Its not only the elderly, its those of us is really disabled is treated wrong,I am 55 and been disabled from a hit an run since late ’80s in Aug ‘08 had a stroke Dec ‘8 had congestive heart failure and again in Jan.’09……..people treats me like I have a desease that they are going to get………we are a forgotten group both the elderly and the disabled, we live on far less than most and find a good aid to come in and help with our needs.
January 27th, 2010 at 8:29 am
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whats this got to do with welfare?
or healthy able bodied people?
in case you didnt know
there are mental health disabilities, soem one can be perfectly able bodied but not emotianly stabe or well
they may LOOK fine to you, but that doesnt mean they are
apprearences are always decieving
but i agree on teh elderly issue
i find it DISGUSTING how governments, each one, treats elderly peopel the same, horrificly
i am so frightened to get older, as i knwo the future that lies ahead of me is not a fair one
January 30th, 2010 at 5:20 am
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Because these healthy people are just not going to work. I live in a small town and know many since I worked at the Post Office. If they were not supported by public assistance they would steal and rob, at which point they would be in jail and supported by us anyway.
January 31st, 2010 at 1:00 am
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Yes, there are many people who will not work so they know how to play the system to get a check.
I work for a Medicaid assistance program and you would be surprised how many are more healthy than I am. They just have a good enough dr. to declare them disabled.
There are also many who deserve Medicaid and other govt. assistance who have trouble getting it.
The assistance programs need to be reworked to benefit the ones who really need it.
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:31 am
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I totaly agree on this. they need to start all over and weed out the the abledbodied from the really needy.. I made very little and still have to pay taxes because I was stupid enough to go to work for 25 years and I have c.p
February 4th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
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i agree with you !!
it is a disgrace
February 8th, 2010 at 12:15 am
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Sometimes a person may look able-bodied and be disabled.
But some states are not good when it comes to how they treat older people.
California is one of the better states for that.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
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I was once on Medicaid and I noticed that with the people who give out the welfare it was definitely the inmates are running the asylum they are more at fault than the recipients who receive it.
February 12th, 2010 at 6:01 am
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there are several people around where i live that are on ssi, they all seem to be in their thirties as near as i can tell. they all seem to be physically healthy, have computers, cars, tv’s dvd’s vcr’s and are able to operate all of them. as far as i know they all get fre medical care, food stamps plus their ssi.
here’s the rub. there are several elderly people around (including myself) who need things done like cleaning, go to the store or errands etc etc. hones to god. you cannot get these s.o.b.’s to do a thing EVEN WHEN you are willing to pay much more than any errand is worth. however, they do make money on the side and i’ll bet that not one of them report it.
i worked all of my earning life and i and others cannot begin to afford the things these godam—- parasites can. the whole system is scr4ewed up no wonder soc sec is broke. maybe if these assho— got jobs soc sec would be solvent.
seen it all with my own eyes